Kirsten Gillibrand’s entire campaign theme is how “BRAVE” she is.

She’s so BRAVE, in fact, that when asked about prosecuting Americans who won’t turn their guns in to the government, she tiptoed around the whole thing before confirming that she will, in fact, prosecute you for keeping your guns.

Here’s the transcript of today’s CNN interview:

HARLOW: “So on the assault weapons issue, you have talked openly about being in favor of an assault weapons ban. I’m interested if you are supportive of a mandatory buyback program for assault weapons. It was brought up first by Eric Swalwell, who was running for president in your party. Cory Booker has talked about that. Some have gone as far as to say not only should it be a mandatory buyback of assault rifles, but there should be criminal prosecution for those who don’t sell them back. Is that something you support?”

GILLIBRAND: “So I think we should ban assault weapons as well as large magazines. And as part of passing that ban, do a buyback program across the country so that those who own them can be compensated for the money they spent. But I think both of those ideas are strong. I think having —“ [crosstalk]

HARLOW: “But mandatory.”

GILLIBRAND: “Well, you don’t want people to retain them because if you make them illegal, you don’t want to grandfather in all the assault weapons all across America. You would like people to sell them back to the government so that you can make sure —“


GILLIBRAND: “— people who shouldn’t have access —“

HARLOW: “Because —“

GILLIBRAND: “— to these weapons couldn’t have them.”

HARLOW: “The next prong of that is, if you’re supportive of a mandatory buyback, then the next step is that you then prosecute, criminally prosecute those who don’t sell them back, which could result in jail time for those individuals. Are you supportive of that?”

GILLIBRAND: “So the point is you don’t want people using assault weapons. And so the point is, if you are arrested for using an assault weapon, you’re going to have an aggravated felony. I mean, the whole point is when you make it a crime to own an assault weapon, then if you are found using it, that would be the issue. So it would —“


GILLIBRAND: “— it would just be part of your law enforcement in terms of what you have access to.”


GILLIBRAND: “It’s in the same way that you need to have a certain certification, a certain approval to have a suppressor on your weapon. That’s why the NRA is desperate to make it easier to get suppressors where you don’t actually have to get a specific license or certification to have that suppressor. So they just care about gun sales. They care about money. They are funded by a lot of people, including gun manufacturers. And gun manufacturers care more about gun sales than the safety of families.”